Swami Visnudas
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- Rishikesh, Uttarakhand, India
- We are pleased to introduce Swami Vishnudas to you, a yogi from the Himalayas who has practiced spiritual yoga sadhana for the last thirty five years and who has gained spiritual experiences and a great yoga vision. Swami Vishnudas's Teaching for the sake of society is to attain a physical and a psychological synthesis which abundantly benefits mankind, be it physically, psychologically or Spiritually. This Yoga sadhana can be very easily integrated into our daily lives as it requires only ten to fifteen minutes of practice to attain beneficial results quickly. We hope that every kind of person will adopt these yoga teachings which are taught in a perfect manner and every human being utilize the merits of yoga to make his or her life physically invigorating and psychologically sound. This yoga, a special and an exceptional yoga is very useful in curing and preventing many ailments. The result is that the body turns into a healthy body and the mind turns sound throughout the day. Secretary IRMI ZWIRCHMAYR AUSTRIA. Email:alexander.zwirchmayr@utametat
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1.12.08
Swagatam
(Welcome)
Discussion with Baba Vishnudas
Q. What is the meaning of Swagatam mantra in Sanskrit?
Ans. Sw means self or supreme and agatam means arrival. Swagatam means self arrival or supreme arrival i.e. invitation to the self only.
Q. Why do you insist on non-chanting the mantra Swagatm i.e. Welcome?
Ans : No need to chant, no need to follow but wait for the day till you realise that welcome or welcome attitude is the only achievable thing in the world. Instead of people's belief, God is everything in the world, wait for the day till you realise that welcome is everything in the world. Also I never advise anybody to follow or to chant this mantra because I have so much confidence and belief in it that if whatever I have given you, if it is true, perfect and right, then welcome itself will make you follow him, you don't have to be worried about it.
Q. How the confidence in welcome is developed in you?
Ans : One reason is that, I have strong belief in Nityananda Baba, whose tomb (samadhi temple) at Ganeshpuri, near Bombay. One day I prstate and told towards his samadi in my mind that it is useless to advise people to teach people about truth, because even if I talk about truth to listeners, followers never accept it, as it is, instead of that, they accept according to their own level, to their own views, understanding and their own individual images, which are created by themselves about truth, which are completely false. They become victims to their own false images which are full of misconceptions & misunderstanding towards truth and they ruin their life which confused them and ultimately they are resulted to misguidance, disturbances, tense, stress etc. by themselves. I told to Nityananda Baba samadhi, please give mantra to the people from my mouth, which will be good and beneficial for their future life and good for my future also. Then after some times, I had intuition from within the word came SWAGATAM (meaning is welcome). Hearing this word, I was surprised because I was expecting to here such kind of mantra, which I have been hearing almost all the time since childhood. At that time it was very hard for me to believe, how this word Swagatam (Welcome) can be a mantra? Since after that conflict took place in my mind, that how is it possible that this can be a mantra? I was thinking if I give it to the people, people will laugh at me, they will make fun of me.
But it is funny experience, that since after that anybody, whoever had approached me with their problems, difficulties, I used to give them this mantra for chanting. I found to whomever I gave this mantra they had good results spontaneously. So gradually confidence started taking place in me. But later on, I came to know that to whomever I had given this mantra, they had never chanted, and from this more confidence developed in me that without chanting this mantra works very nicely with everybody. I realise chanting is not necessary only understanding is enough. After seeing good results in the people, lastly within a year I realised the Swagatam (Welcome) mantra is the great, the supreme. Even understanding and realisation of this mantra is more than enough, automatically we are converted from welcome to welcome attitude in practical life, which is known as super conscious in spiritual life.
Q. What makes you feel that this welcome mantra is great for materialistic life also ?
Ans. I find that the root of all the disturbances is that, people are not quiet enough strong in welcome attitude. People are very much strong with their demands and desires, but at the root of all these demands, desires if you will go, you will come to know that due to lack of welcome attitude, they become obstinent towards their demands, ultimately which give them jolt to fall into hell, to fall into ditch. Also if you keenly observe everday's life, welcome attitude is the only very essential ingredient.
1. If one is strong enough in welcome attitude, he has good dealings in relation, in business. It helps to prosper business and helps to have good relation with boss or superior post people.
2. If husband and wife are welcome by each other nicely, there is no need to apply for divorce in the court.
3. If youngsters who are hunting life partners, they need not worry because if they hunt or search with welcome attitude, it is sure they will meet their right partner very soon and welcome attitude will help them to continue good relation with their partners forever.
4. In the world people approach to each other with the attitude of sex involvement, property demand, lust, envious, anger etc. But if the approach of each people in the world is with welcome attitude, then imagine how the world is so beautiful, like heaven. No need to apply for heaven, no need to meditate for heaven, world itself become heaven.
5. Suppose if you go on tour or travel on the road and if you experienced by each and everybody that you are welcomed and when you return home you experience what a beautiful relaxation within you and that also with a great amount of peace, the peace for which thousands of years people have been trying to dig-out through many ways but almost none of them has received yet. Only those rare people have received who are enough strong in welcome attitude. What a beautiful formula for peace, is just WELCOME and JUST BE meditation, that's all.
Q. You say not to follow and not to chant your mantra swagatam (welcome) also, then how is it possible that one can come across welcome attitude?
Ans. I said not to follow and not to chant but I did not say not to think, do you know this? My meaning is to say, whatever I tell don't accept blindly, use your mind, use your intellect and find out yourself whether it is true or not? Then only you will realise it. I have just picked up a word welcome from your pocket of memory and brought it on the surface of your mind. I have done my duty, drawn your attention on the word welcome which was ignored by you since last many births. Now it is your duty, you can ask and raise multiplication questions on it that will help you to realise the importance of welcome but not by following blindly through me.
But this much confidence I have, that my word never goes wasted, it will work on you. You don't need to work on that or worried for that also. This much I know that my duty is finished when I give you and your duty is also finished when you heard from me, now let us leave it as it is, because the giver who has given this mantra to me will work on you. O.K. that's my belief.
Q. O.K. I agree with you, because I am impressed by you and your talk, on welcome, I have a strong feeling to work on it, what should I do?
Ans. My dear friend, I myself don't have the way to become strong in welcome attitude, even though I want to. But I remember according to the Talmond (Jewish) advice, "Do such thing for the people, which you would be liked to be done by the others to you". If you understand this then with the help of this advice you can try. Act in such a way, behave in such a way, think in such a way, that you are welcomed by the people and all your actions, behaviours, thinking are also welcome by you, that's all.
I realised, welcome is everything for me. Even though I myself have no any special way to become strong in welcome attitude. I am very much eager to become strong in it. I am also on the waiting list, waiting for the day to become strong in welcome and in welcome attitude. Nothing special I do for that. I keep patience. Till that I will keep quiet that means I will follow JUST BE meditation (fruitless, effortless meditation). This welcome understanding and JUST BE meditation are more than sufficient for me in spiritual & materialistic life. No question is arose in me like you, and this is the only way to become and get absorbed in welcome by having patience, understanding welcome and by Practicing JUST BE meditation. This much I know.
Q. When you say do everything, it may involved bad things like fight also? Do you mean to say should I ?
Ans. Yes, of course you can, but try to understand the difference between to fight & to welcome fight in "to fight". You are involved in anger, lust, envious, selfishness, you are dependent on win or defeat. In short you are completely involved in your ego, for your safety, prestige and gain also. At that movement one way your intellect is absent, dead or one sided, not active, you are lost to yourself. But in 'to welcome' fight means you are involved at the same time, you are witness to yourself, you are observer to yourself and to your involvement. Your intellect is in present, you are not lost, on the contrary you are aware of your own existence and your stability of the mind, which is completely independent on the fight whether you win or defeated.
For example if you refer to our holy book Shri Bhagwat Gita, when you will summarise the whole Gita, you will find Lord Krishna wants to advise Arjuna to welcome fight i.e. fight the war without getting involved and without attachment.
Q. Now I have understood that, to understand and to realise welcome is very essential for us in everyday life, but will you please let me know how it is advantageous and related to the spiritualism, super-consciousness?
Ans. This I can express in many ways according to your concepts towards spiritualism. First ask question to yourself what is spiritualism? How to become advance in spiritualism life and in spiritual experiences.
If you scrutinize all the scriptures, religions, philosophical books, you will notice that their aim to reach followers to the even consciousness that means to transcend the mind above duality. And this is easily done without effort by realising and understanding welcome and practicing JUST BE meditation. When the both opposite sensation, opposite feelings, opposite words like good, bad like positive, negative things are approached with welcome attitude, the feelings, sensation of difference between opposition get finished and automatically mind transcend above duality. One get introspect and he is on the way start knowing about the self, knowledge and experiences start from within and he is on the way of liberation.
Q. Do you mean to say most of the people are breaking their head, for understanding self, with the help of dogmas, philosophical & spiritual books, is it useless?
Ans. I don't say it is useless. But this much I can tell if all these books are handled with welcome attitude, welcome understanding, this itself become more profitable, more advantages, more encourages. Because when these are handled with welcome attitude means without dependency, you are completely a keen and eager observer and listener to the books and you gain or understand these books as it is, thoroughly and completely.
But if the same are handled with, without welcome attitude i.e. with dependency attitude, your attention will be drawn to the particular aspects only wherever you are attached or concerned, that mean limited only. So instead of understanding the whole book as it is, your understanding will be a part, will be a limited as per your requirements, demands. And because of these, there are many chances to come across false images about the same books, by which already people have become victim and they suffer for that.
Q. Then why people are insisted upon controlling mind, thoughts, desires like anger, lust, envious, sex, etc.
Ans. In welcome attitude and JUST BE meditation, no question of 'to control appears because these are controlled spontaneously. JUST BE meditation strengthen the welcome attitude and when the mind, desires are approached with welcome attitude they are controlled spontaneously. When you will understand and know welcome thoroughly then you will experience that these are controlled unknowing, effortlessly.
Q. Then what is austerity?
Ans. Austerity means to work hard, to make conversion in self for to become strong in welcome attitude. .
Q. Then do you mean to say, self-realisation, liberation is also welcome attitude?
Ans. Yes, of course it is. But not welcome attitude only but welcome conscious also.
Q. Then what do you mean by welcome conscious?
Ans. First let me know what do you mean by Supreme Soul? Supreme Soul means whoever goes to him, may be a criminal or may be a saint or good or bad or wild nature, all are welcomed by him, his approach towards them is same.
When human-being completely realised and abide in his own self consciousness, he is called supreme soul i.e. complete detached soul, i.e. completely free and independent soul, he is free from all kinds of fear. He feels full of content within by himself only and you will observe that without any effort everything is welcomed by him. This state of consciousness is called welcome conscious where nothing left to know anymore, nothing left to do any more also.
That means when one has completely oneness with self (soul) and abide in the self is known as welcome consciousness.
Q. It seems according to you, welcome (swagatam) is last mantra, is it true? If yes, then what about the all kinds of mantras, techniques? Are they false?
Ans. I can say who has never seen sun, and habitual to live in the dark place (i.e. ignorance), for them candle light is the only light for their whole life. For them duties are imposed like to manufacture candles, lighters, use them for lightening. So in short all these people are all the time busy with manufacturing, candles that is manufacturing books, scripture, mantras, techniques and for lightening candle i.e. for enlightenment they are in search of gurus, mantras, enlighten people. It is funny that people are not aware that light is within themselves and the enlighten is also within themselves. That's their fault.
So I don't criticize that all these mantras and techniques are false on the contrary vedas mantras have very strong vibration, but they create only powerful detachment tendency, which should be noted.
You are all aware if one goes on swallowing purgative tablets (i.e. detached mantra) what will be the condition of him? Only diarrhea, only suffering, torturing.
But in mantra swagatam (welcome) & in JUST BE meditation, it's neither purgative (detached) nor constipation (attached) tendency. One is transcended above attach and detach, where one feel the existence of self within, he is in JUST BE position, that is he is in let it be position, that which is the position of soul. That's all.
Q. Do you mean to say are they fool who concentrate and chant continuously?
Ans. Of course, they are fool until they come to know that they are fooled. They are sheep, nothing else. Now just for example I say people are guided, if they go to temples, churches without any desire, then definitely they are going to be blessed by God. It is completely nonsense, absurd also. How it is possible without having sickness one will go to doctor. Temples, churches are itself the words related to only desireful people not for desireless people like Doctor itself is the word related to sickness, patients only but nor for healthy people.
But it is definite one who approach to God with welcome attitude, it is sure that he is going to be blessed by God, no doubt in it. For instance I say God word is related to desireful people, doctor word is related to patient, sickness and the welcome word is related to blessings only.
Q. That means, according to you, if anybody understand the importance of welcome or realised what welcome is, he feels so fulfilled that he does not need to read and follow anything any more, thereafter, is it true?
Ans. Of course it is true, because once he becomes one with welcome he is desireless, detached, independent. Dependency on the outside knowledge is almost finished. But even if he wishes, he can read, no harm in it. On the contrary his confidence in welcome will become more and more strong by reading, because reading will help him to know whatever he understood, realise about welcome is rather more satisfactory than these books.
Q. Will you please let me know how is it related to liberation?
Ans. When one become strong in welcome attitude, no harassing questions like hell & heaven left for him. If he goes to heaven he is welcomed, if he goes to hell he is welcomed, so for him hell and heaven question does not arise. He is transcending above hell and heaven where the existence of self soul is. Where he becomes the full stop for, to search for liberation which is known as LIBERATION itself.
Q. What do you mean, transcend above hell and heaven, what that world is?
Ans. That world is self, that is pure self-consciousness.
Q. Then how is the behaviour of the man who lives in pure consciousness.
Ans. Sorry, it is not possible to frame, to narrate the description of liberated souls. Because they are completely free from actions, free from boundations, free from thought, behaviour internally. But outside their roles are very different. Sometimes they appear and look as if they are more attached and involved for the outlookers than others but internally they are not. One sign only I know, that if one be in his existence, he automatically experienced peace and knowledge, experience from within but for this also I am not 100% agree. Because you know a boy and girl sit together they also have joy, peace, relaxation from within.
It has been mentioned that the supreme souls live in three forms : First form he is very angry and scolding personality, second form is like mental or mad and third form is like king sitting on thorn and blessings.
When anybody approach to first kind of angry, scolding supreme soul, you will find he scold in such a manner, you will hate him strongly and try to go away from him, he is so untolerable. But later on you experience, good experiences in practical life. It is, as if when doctor inject or operate patient, first patient hates him but afterward patient starts feeling good and start praising him.
The second supreme soul is like mad and mental form. Suppose in winter if you find him shivering from cold and you feel pity towards him and give him your own blanket, he will laugh like mad and take the lighter from his pocket and burn in front of you, you will feel very much annoyed at that time but afterward you will realise and experience good, relaxable experience. That means he does not burn your blanket but he burns your bad karmas (action), sin and purify you. If you give him food he may throw on the road and you experience you are blessed by him.
The third supreme is like in the form of king. Like king he sits on the thorn and in luxury. Whoever goes to him, goes with offerings to him, he blesses them, talk nicely with them with love and affection, his behaviour is very good, tolerable and enjoyable.
Q. Then how to search such souls?
Ans. These souls cannot be searched. But those who are with welcome attitude, for them they are visible or they come in contact with them or by chance they are inter-linked or come across them spontaneously.
Q. Why do I feel that welcome understanding and JUST BE meditation is better than Vipasana meditation.
Ans. It has been noticed, In Vipasana great concentration on breathing is needed, torturing feeling is also there and it is full of rules and regulations and discipline and it is resulted to little bit irritation afterward. Your taste change, after that you enjoy more loneliness, silence place. You feel irritated or you are not at ease or not acceptable in noisy places.
It is a Sanskrit word, in Sanskrit it is called vipashyna . Vi means with perticular way or through perticular angle and pashyna means to see . Vipashyna menas to see through particular angle or with perticular way. Totally meaning sounds in spiritualism , be witness to your self , while seeing. That means to see the world as it is, without past and future, that also at ease without any stress, strain, pressure, force.
But it is noticed that none has achieved the Same result by following vipasana this is the intention of vipasana which you have not achieved. May be rarely by luck somebody might have achieved, I don’t know he is lucky.
But in JUST BE meditation and in welcome understanding - to concentrate and to meditate, do not present, so no question of force, stress, strain on mind and body. You are completely free, at ease, you are with your own natural behaviour attitudes and tendencies. In Vipasana to meditate and to concentrate present but in JUST BE & welcome attitude, meditation is done and concentration is done present. You are in tranquil. Vipasana meditation is full of effort and this JUST BE and welcome understanding are effortless meditation. In Vipasana more importance is given on sensitiveness of body and full of rules & regulation but in JUST BE and welcome meditation, importance is given to introspect, you abide yourself beyond sense, where this gross body does not concern.
Q. When welcome understanding and JUST BE mediation is more than enough, independent way, then why people are drawn towards intellectual spiritual teachers by whom they are always resulted in puzzle, disturbance, tense etc.?
Ans. They are sheep. Sheep always drawn towards sheep only. Wise man, still and steady man followed by themselves to themselves only. Intellectual teaching is like as if to tell fish "be in search of water".
Q. One Lady : I understand and like welcome, but please tell me, if a man continuously harassing how to welcome him?
Ans. I will tell you how to welcome it. But you first start abusing, scolding at me, criticizing me.
(Effect : That lady suddenly took the form of anger and started abusing me, scolding at me so violently and terribly, I was afraid because if I was to continue her anger for more than 30 seconds she would have assaulted me. In these thirty seconds she had thrown all the garbage of irritation and anger on me, which was suppressed in her for the last twenty years, since she had divorced with her husband).
After thirty seconds I told her stop. Now I will tell you how I welcome your anger.
You become completely violent and involved in your anger at the same time instead of getting involved in your anger, I am not angry but busy with trying to find out the cause, the reason behind your anger which has made you so angry and violent. Here I am busy with finding out the cause of your anger and at the same time your anger is welcomed by me and also along with that I am getting more knowledge from your anger.
Another way, if I don't want you to become more violent I would welcome my slap on your cheeks just to shut up your anger. I welcome my slaps means without getting involved in anger just to shut up you I use slap which is not with bad intention where I am fully aware of myself, the slap and your anger also.
I hope now you understand how to welcome harassment.
Q. Suppose if I go to interview, then how can I welcome interviewer, the boss?
Ans. Whenever one goes to interview he is always with fear, with lust of getting job but he is not with welcome attitude. But if he approaches interviewer with welcome attitude that is instead of expecting job if he goes with welcome attitude and with pleasing personality to the boss, he is fearless, without attached to expectation and he becomes successful in interview.
Q. Will you please tell me till today how many people have become successful in welcome attitude?
Ans. I don't know how many but there are some and there were some. But it is sure that at the bottom of the heart of each and everybody if you will notice that they are trying their best to become one with the welcome only. The base (foundation) of all the desires, demands, expectation, you will find are assembled into one only that is welcome attitude.
Q. If the welcome is the best teaching, easy word for realisation, then why nobody has been able to mention till today?
Ans. It is there but in silence background. If you scrutinize all the scriptures, philosophy books you will come to know they wanted to teach the same welcome but may be they are not aware of the importance of this word Welcome. The same they have tried their best to express in many ways, through many fables also.
Q. What makes you to teach us the word welcome?
Ans. My realisation on welcome word makes me feel to teach this word to the people. My conscious says if people understand the importance of the word welcome fully then it is easy for them to understand scripture, philosophy books "as it is" instead of creating their own misconcepts, their misunderstanding towards truth. From the same scripture, books they will be able to have peaceful, relaxable life.
Q. It is true, no more questions I have on welcome but please let me know what have you received from the word welcome?
Ans. It is very interesting. When I first received welcome (swagatam) word there was no much change in me but instead of joy, relaxation there was big struggle and fight in me because I am brought up in different culture, different attitude through out many life. For me it took about one year to realise the importance of this word. Then it was accepted by me and I realised whatever is to achieve in the world is only welcome and since that day the importance of yoga, vedanta, intellectual philosophy, knowledge, hunting for spiritual experience started vanishing from me. I started feeling getting more and more unburden and started good relaxation since that day. The importance of many thing finished from me as if burning candle is very important in dark (ignorance) but in the (welcome light) sunlight burning candle amounts to nothing. The same candle becomes useless in sunlight, only the name candle remain but the importance of the candle is finished which happened to me in the light of welcome. All importance of scripture was finished.
Q. Do you mean to say after following welcome, the importance finished?
Ans. My dear I have never followed welcome but only through thoughts I realised the importance of welcome and automatically clutches on meditation, concentration, desires of achievements automatically (effortlessly) became loose, one way you can say it slipped from me. I realised before the holds (clutches) on the previous understanding was disturbing me a lot, from within which was finished as if when camphor burnt no residue left. I became free and open in the heart saying to myself whatever achieved is welcome and whatever not achieved is also welcome. What a big full stop I had. What a good freedom & relaxation I had.
Q. Then what do you do? Don't you concentrate or don't you meditate?
Ans. Nothing I just keep quiet, i.e. I Follow JUST BE meditation. That becomes a joy and good entertainment for me, where meditation is done, concentration is done and where to concentrate and to meditate do not present like all other meditation techniques
August 4, 2007 12:18 AM
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